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Old 10th March 2010, 04:38 PM
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So ON - if its heated in hot water for example - would this break down the molecules? If not, would it help with the pain?
If you heat it with water it will be fine. You can cook the shit out of gear, just not with radiation. Dunno about the pain thing.
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If you want to heat the oil before the shot the best thing to do is to place the entire vial in a cup of warm/hot (not boiling) water for a couple of minutes, draw and then shoot the heated oil...
It should come into the syringe much easier and be easier to shoot... As for pain, doesn't make all that much difference IMO...
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Ok the shot from yesterday isnt as painful after diluting it abit but is still pretty fucking painful.very sore to touch.generally feeling like shit with tiredness,headache and i reckon im getting abit of a temperature.im going to have to stop 4 a few days till i feel beta then might try it again with a smaller dose and more dilution.anyone got any other suggestions?
not much else you can do other than dillute it more, basically this is lowering the alcohol percentage from probably 15-20% down to maybe 10% or something along those lines. The mor eyou dilute it the less pain you should have and injecting alot of water volume into a muscle shouldn't be a major problem what we are trying to acheive is by spreading the alcohol...say 0.2mls out of your 1ml injection over a larger surface area of the muscle in order to still create a swelling but over a larger area so it has less impact, you could also try dilluting it down alot and taking the injection in multiple points ie 3-4 injection points, so take your 1ml of test suspension and add say 2mls of water for each injection point this will be far less painfull and if you can and need to reduce the pain further water it down more, just be sure to do the watering down in the syringe not the vial as i said before.

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So ON - if its heated in hot water for example - would this break down the molecules? If not, would it help with the pain?
heating in water wont break down the moecules you should be right to heat it upto about 40-50 degree's this will be warmish when it entres so you may feel a slight burn, but shouldn't be anything to worry about.
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not much else you can do other than dillute it more, basically this is lowering the alcohol percentage from probably 15-20% down to maybe 10% or something along those lines. The mor eyou dilute it the less pain you should have and injecting alot of water volume into a muscle shouldn't be a major problem what we are trying to acheive is by spreading the alcohol...say 0.2mls out of your 1ml injection over a larger surface area of the muscle in order to still create a swelling but over a larger area so it has less impact, you could also try dilluting it down alot and taking the injection in multiple points ie 3-4 injection points, so take your 1ml of test suspension and add say 2mls of water for each injection point this will be far less painfull and if you can and need to reduce the pain further water it down more, just be sure to do the watering down in the syringe not the vial as i said before.
Awesome mate.ill do exactly that after a few days off from it.if it doesnt work then its just not 4 me.thanks again
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