Adex and Nolva

[Jaymo]

Good Afternoon,

I'm having trouble deciding which one to go with ive been reading so much about them and the more I read the more confused I get.

I want to go with Adex because I can use it during the cycle but not so sure if it will be suitable for PCT on its own

Any suggestions?

[plexus]

Use hCG on cycle in addition to adex then nothing needed for PCT. ;-)

[O.N.]

http://forum.onlinenutrition.com.au/...rt-of-pct.html

[Thrasha]

Good Afternoon,

I'm having trouble deciding which one to go with ive been reading so much about them and the more I read the more confused I get.

I want to go with Adex because I can use it during the cycle but not so sure if it will be suitable for PCT on its own

Any suggestions?

I use both during and nolva after.

For some reason after a jab of 250mg in a day or 2 my bitchies swell up so a quick hit of the nolva keeps them down. I still use .5mg arim EOD and 250iu of hcg. ill only take the nolva on jab day or the next.

[Jaymo]

Thanks for the responses and that was an informative read O.N.

I didn't realise that using both Adex and HCG would limit the chances of needing PCT. When I started researching AAS and what is required in cycles I found there was alot of talk regarding HCG the link O.N. posted mentions HCG being so readily available im hoping this means no prescriptions required if so, this will save me time trying to find it.

[Thrasha]

Thanks for the responses and that was an informative read O.N.

I didn't realise that using both Adex and HCG would limit the chances of needing PCT. When I started researching AAS and what is required in cycles I found there was alot of talk regarding HCG the link O.N. posted mentions HCG being so readily available im hoping this means no prescriptions required if so, this will save me time trying to find it.

hahaha um prescription required lol

[Scottie85]

hahaha um prescription required lol

And good luck getting one without an understanding, or at least well informed, doctor...

[zayd687]

well im sure if ppl out there can get their hands on heroin/ice/coke on a daily basis that hcg shouldnt be a real problem if you can get the right contacts.
and no way your going to get it under prescription HAH!

run both during the cycle. no more crashing.


an addition of nolva can get be used for extra precaution but not necessary.

[DTM]

Interesting to hear that when using HCG during cycle, you dont need PCT.

So if I was to have a 10 week cycle at 500mg of test e, running armidex and HCG through cycle, does that mean that once 10 weeks are done no need for clomid or nolvadex?

If yes, what should we have on hand incase of the gyno?

Thanks,

Dan

[O.N.]

Anti e's have their place post cycle and will work in raising testosterone levels when hcg is used and your nuts are in working order ie leydig cells are "not" de-sensitsed

[Scottie85]

Interesting to hear that when using HCG during cycle, you dont need PCT.

So if I was to have a 10 week cycle at 500mg of test e, running armidex and HCG through cycle, does that mean that once 10 weeks are done no need for clomid or nolvadex?

If yes, what should we have on hand incase of the gyno?

Thanks,

Dan

If you're running a-dex throughout the cycle at .5mg EOD there really shouldn't be any gyno issues as they are estrogen/aromatise related and the a-dex takes care of that well...
With the simple test cycle there's also no need to be worried in regards to prolactin induced gyno...

However, in saying all this I would still keep nolva on hand just in case...

[RF1964]

I agree with Scotty, better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it.

[Thrasha]

yes very agreed! I find a day or 2 after a jab my nipples get sore maybe cos of the rise in test even though i take .5mg arim eod. Depending on how sore ill either take 20 or 40mg of nolva. I really should just up the arim to .5mg ed....

Look daniel you might not need a pct but id still do 1. Thinking about give premordial preformance's TRS stack for the next cycle if i find hcg during the cycle alone isnt enough.

[DTM]

I guess its the old rule of thumb - better to be safe then sorry. With that, and the responses will look to run armidex throughout cycle, dosage undecided, t500mg test e, maybe 40mg dbol first few weeks, and hcg throughout. Finish with a stock standard nolva and clomid PCT.

[Scottie85]

You won't need both the nolva and clomid of pct, I would choose nolva alone, irreversable partial blindness is one possible side effects of clomid that tells me to stay the fuck away from it!
And as for the nolva for PCT, probably don't need the dosage as high as 40mg daily as the stock PCT would suggest, 20mg daily for 3 or 4 weeks will have you back asap...

[Thrasha]

You won't need both the nolva and clomid of pct, I would choose nolva alone, irreversable partial blindness is one possible side effects of clomid that tells me to stay the fuck away from it!
And as for the nolva for PCT, probably don't need the dosage as high as 40mg daily as the stock PCT would suggest, 20mg daily for 3 or 4 weeks will have you back asap...

huh? i cant read your post i cant see it properly hahaha
Look i prefer clomid for pct and nolva on cycle. dont know why i just feel this it works better for me.

[DTM]

huh? i cant read your post i cant see it properly hahaha
Look i prefer clomid for pct and nolva on cycle. dont know why i just feel this it works better for me.

haha - love it.

Given that I will drop the clomid, have the nolva on hand throughout the cycle, and run PCT alone.

Dont wont to be loosing my sight ! Whats the point of having a great body if you cant see it

[zayd687]

clomid you lose sight ouch!.

nolva gives u cancer.... sweet pick ur symptom , blind or cancer !

.5 adex and 2x hcg mxied every 5 weeks is AWESOME. i still feel the same as when i came off.. never needed the nolva
p.s im also a person that got the itchy nips soreness on my 1st cycle.

[Scottie85]

clomid you lose sight ouch!.

nolva gives u cancer.... sweet pick ur symptom , blind or cancer !

There's no evidence to suggest Nolva gives men cancer... It has been linked to cancer of the uterus in females who use it as a breast cancer med, loosely i might add, and no links to other forms of cancer in women or men... And being that us Males don't have a uterus, we're on the safe side thus far...

[zayd687]

i heard laz say it * points at him * ....

i cant find any evidence to suggest cancer in males. especially for usage of 4 weeks. i take back what i said


http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/tamnolmenwit.html <-- thats a good read not indicating cancer but how its actually good for our hearts?